Meili
Feb 14 2009, 15.57
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Lany Cassandra
Feb 15 2009, 11.19
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QUOTE (Alarich @ Feb 15 2009, 10.48)
I don't think that freedoms of Expression, Press and Assembly are in danger if this game is made illegal.
I agree completely.
I just noticed not a singel female has posted an objection to this, so let me say it: It crosses the line and should be, without a doubt, made illegal.
There is nothing fun or entertaining about rape.
Rape happens in fiction as it is indeed a part of real life. Fiction and GAMES are not the same. In fiction rape might happen, but it is not the goal of the reader to commit rapes.
There is not a single redeaming factor to this game and should indeed not be sold in the US (or any sane country)
Feb 15 2009, 13.43
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QUOTE (Lany Cassandra @ Feb 15 2009, 11.19)
I agree completely.
I just noticed not a singel female has posted an objection to this, so let me say it: It crosses the line and should be, without a doubt, made illegal.
Free speech until it crosses my line. That's a great standard. The entire nature of obscenity law is absurd. An archaic throwback to our more socially repressive and prudish history and all the law that's developed around it is little more than a fancy way of saying "I know it when I see it". Its all bullshit and should be done away with.
QUOTE (Lany Cassandra @ Feb 15 2009, 11.19)
There is nothing fun or entertaining about rape.
Different strokes for different folks. I'm sure there are porn sites dedicated to just that sort of thing with many avid viewers.
QUOTE (Lany Cassandra @ Feb 15 2009, 11.19)
Rape happens in fiction as it is indeed a part of real life. Fiction and GAMES are not the same. In fiction rape might happen, but it is not the goal of the reader to commit rapes.
There is not a single redeaming factor to this game and should indeed not be sold in the US (or any sane country)
I know its been covered already, but it is the goal of the player to shoot cops, run over pedestrians, steal cars, deal drugs, beat random passerbyes to death, and a number of other things in games like GTA. Hell, the whole FPS genre is pretty much mass murder, except you're typically killing aliens, zombies or NAZI's so its ok. Murder happens in fiction, but IT IS the goal to murder in many games. How is this all that different?
Feb 15 2009, 13.50
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QUOTE (Alarich @ Feb 15 2009, 12.26)
Imo this "game" is way beyond the merely offensive. It glorifies a disgusting and degrading act of dehumanization.
Sure it does. And I'm sure 50 or 100 years ago there were countless things that are commonplace today that most people then would consider 'beyond merely offensive' and seek to ban. I don't see much difference. Something will always come along that shocks the modern conscience. Do you think that say...the writings of the Marquis De Sade, which depict things infinitely worse than anything in this game times ten, should be banned as well? He was absolutely glorifying disgusting and degrading acts of dehumanization in his work. Or do you, like most others, look back at that and say 'Thank god we live in a freer time where authorities don't demonize authors, burn their works, and enforce moral/social standards at the point of a gun'
Feb 15 2009, 15.56
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QUOTE (Meili @ Feb 15 2009, 14.38)
Times ten? I am pretty sure three men gang raping a mother and her two daughters for the purpose of enjoyment is as bad as anything De Sade ever wrote or did. This kind of torture is on par with skinning a person alive.
You've never read De Sade then. Try 120 Days of Sodom. Kicks the shit out of this measely little game's antics rather thoroughly. Basically 4 wealthy Libertines raping, torturing, and murdering their way through dozens of girls and boys and taking delight in it every step of the way. This game is nothing comparatively. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/120_Days_of_Sodom
QUOTE (Meili @ Feb 15 2009, 14.38)
Well since there are other violent porn sites I suppose it makes this game ok, right? And the 'different strokes' line is a sickening defense as the 'folk' who want to play out raping a mother shouldn't be 'folks' anyways. They should be inmate number 119. I know there is no law making this so and I am aware this currently falls under freedom of speech. That doesn't make it right IMO and it certainly doesn't mean the law isn't wrong and the people who play this for fun should remain in the general population IMO.
Free speech makes this game ok. It makes violent porn sites ok. It should make nearly every form of expression that doesn't involve actual kids or non-consenting parties ok. That's kind of the nature of the beast. You don't get to pick and choose what you think is non-offensive and outlaw the rest cause I guarantee there's a neighbor who thinks any form of nudity or mere reference to sex is an abomination and that it should all be outlawed. Do we use his standard or yours? What makes his so much less reasonable than yours?
And people have all manner of weird, disturbing fantasies all the time. So long as they remain fantasies, what the hell is the big deal? I'm sure your neighbor is wacking it to Bukkake while your other neighbor is gorging on some rope bondage. Have they reached inmate status yet? What about the bloke down the street into asian girls and eels (don't ask) and I guarantee there are some 2 girl, 1 cup 'reaction shots' that didn't involve pure horror and revulsion. So.Fucking.What? If it gets you off, it gets you off. Who are you to judge what a person gets excited by? So long as they don't act on the criminal ones, what's the problem? We just had a gender thread up here where a ton of women in a study had rape fantasies, should they be carted off to the asylum?
